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I haven't heard back from all of my schools yet, but I have heard back from 2 similarly "ranked" schools -- one in the eastern part of PA and the other in NJ (not the same state, but located within a few hours of each other).

The school in PA has better medians, but the NJ one has a better employment %. The PA school has offered me a full-tuition ship with no stips. The NJ school offered me (what comes out to) a 33% ship along with a pretty stringent stip.

I would just withdraw my application to the NJ school, when comparing the 2 offers (they aren't even close). However, I want to negotiate and see if I can get a comparable ship from the NJ school, and put it back onto my radar.

Is raising a ship by 60% and removing stips just entirely way too much to even ask for? How would you go about negotiating this/What would you say?

Thanks!

bmathers wrote:I haven't heard back from all of my schools yet, but I have heard back from 2 similarly "ranked" schools -- one in the eastern part of PA and the other in NJ (not the same state, but located within a few hours of each other).

The school in PA has better medians, but the NJ one has a better employment %. The PA school has offered me a full-tuition ship with no stips. The NJ school offered me (what comes out to) a 33% ship along with a pretty stringent stip.

I would just withdraw my application to the NJ school, when comparing the 2 offers (they aren't even close). However, I want to negotiate and see if I can get a comparable ship from the NJ school, and put it back onto my radar.

Is raising a ship by 60% and removing stips just entirely way too much to even ask for? How would you go about negotiating this/What would you say?

Thanks!

I would be extremely cautious of any school that attached stipulations to a scholarship. As far as medians vs. employment numbers, the latter is really the only thing that matters. It might be too much to get a full scholarship from a 1/3 scholarship, but I would certainly ask that stipulations be removed, and then ask for no less than you would feel comfortable paying.

bmathers wrote:I haven't heard back from all of my schools yet, but I have heard back from 2 similarly "ranked" schools -- one in the eastern part of PA and the other in NJ (not the same state, but located within a few hours of each other).

The school in PA has better medians, but the NJ one has a better employment %. The PA school has offered me a full-tuition ship with no stips. The NJ school offered me (what comes out to) a 33% ship along with a pretty stringent stip.

I would just withdraw my application to the NJ school, when comparing the 2 offers (they aren't even close). However, I want to negotiate and see if I can get a comparable ship from the NJ school, and put it back onto my radar.

Is raising a ship by 60% and removing stips just entirely way too much to even ask for? How would you go about negotiating this/What would you say?

Thanks!

Just say what you said here. Tell them to give you full freight with no strips or you walk. There's literally no downside since you're prepared to not go anyway.

Thanks all. I guess it can't hurt, since I would just withdraw my app with no change anyway. I just want to make sure that I am doing it correctly, to stand the best chance of having a successful negotiation.

bmathers wrote:I haven't heard back from all of my schools yet, but I have heard back from 2 similarly "ranked" schools -- one in the eastern part of PA and the other in NJ (not the same state, but located within a few hours of each other).

The school in PA has better medians, but the NJ one has a better employment %. The PA school has offered me a full-tuition ship with no stips. The NJ school offered me (what comes out to) a 33% ship along with a pretty stringent stip.

I would just withdraw my application to the NJ school, when comparing the 2 offers (they aren't even close). However, I want to negotiate and see if I can get a comparable ship from the NJ school, and put it back onto my radar.

Is raising a ship by 60% and removing stips just entirely way too much to even ask for? How would you go about negotiating this/What would you say?

Thanks!

With your 162/3.7, make Nova and Temple race to a full scholly. Both will give you a 15% shot at practicing in Philly. Rutgers also has some ties but worse big law opportunity (<10%). If you prefer NYC though, go to Seton Hall.

Posting this here since it's at the top of this sub so it may get seen quicker. Question about negotiating that I haven't seen a specific answer to yet (I've only searched through a few pages so far).

I got into similarly ranked T1 schools, generally of the same region (Midwest). Some scholarship offers were better, but the ease of gaining in-state tuition at one school makes it much cheaper overall (provided residency happens as easy as they say) even with a lower scholly. I feel like that puts me in a tough position to negotiate. How would I go about trying to get some additional financial help?