URM 2014-2015 Cycle Thread Forum

[ballcaps]

Why would Berkeley take me and UCLA WL me? It makes no sense, since it appears Berkeley is more selective.

YP possibly?

sorry, but compelled to chime in as i've seen this sentiment thrown around a lot recently.

oskosh is below both of ucla's medians. as attractive as it is for us, the applicants, to ascribe every single WL/ding to yield protection, needless to say, it doesn't work like that.

@oskosh: the berkeley-ucla situation is weird, but admissions are not nearly so scientific as to suggest a discrete, compelling reason for this outcome.

[Flokkness]

"YP bro, YP" is a way to tell other hardworking, intelligent, and ambitious URMs to keep their heads up and stay optimistic. I'll call YP all day to that end. That rejection/WL is gonna gnaw on them and fuck with their much-needed confidence, so alleviating it = win! And, hey, it might be the right call, so good enough. Agreed, though, that it's likely more complicated than that...here's a funny piece by Dean Zearfoss on the subject; maybe if we all call YP all the time they'll unbox more of their admissions process.

http://www.law.umich.edu/connection/a2z ... aspx?ID=11

First ding of the cycle--got a rejection from Mich which was sad because they really do have a beautiful campus.

In happier news UR2 at Penn and NYU since last week, I'm excited for both schools so keep your fingers crossed for me. This thread has been so helpful and uplifting and I'm rooting for all of you!

YP bro, YP! Boo @ Mich, but you're very much in the game - good luck!!

[cc78]

I think our struggle is that it is so hard to make complete rhyme or reason out of this stuff. Comparing oshkosh and Tr3, for instance, kinda raises some confusion:

They have pretty similar numbers and are both MA. Tr got UCLA, while osh was WL; osh got Berkeley straight admit while Tr had to go through FR.

Going further, I find my cycle to be pretty strange. In the lower T14+ I'm killing it with $$$ all around, but once I wandered into the DMB range, I got no love, but then was back on fire for Penn, NCC and S. Why would that gap be there? It would make more sense for a sort of cascading of scholarship money the further up the rankings you go, but not this WL/Twist in the wind thing.

And then there's the crime committed against LC at UVA, WTF was that?

[Superstaranonymous]

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[Atmosphere]

WL'ed at Penn, I'll be withdrawing

[90convoy]

WL'ed at Penn, I'll be withdrawing

same...im going to withdraw from a couple of places soon.

On another note...what are some of the wait times from JS1 ---> JS2/ding/waitlist?

[ballcaps]

WL'ed at Penn, I'll be withdrawing

same...im going to withdraw from a couple of places soon.

On another note...what are some of the wait times from JS1 ---> JS2/ding/waitlist?

my js2 took exactly three weeks. most have taken longer though.

[Oskosh]

Got into Cornell.

What now UCLA?!?!

[Atmosphere]

Got into Cornell.

What now UCLA?!?!

Congrats! That's how I feel after months of radio-silence from UCLA haha

[cc78]

Got into Cornell.

What now UCLA?!?!

Told you. Congrats!

[90convoy]

Got into Cornell.

What now UCLA?!?!

congrats! lol

[90convoy]

jammin to all of our acceptances like

smack it, smack it in the air Legs moving side to side, smack it in the air Legs moving side to side, smack you in the air Shoulders sideways, smack it, smack it in the air Smack it, smack it in the air Legs moving side to side, smack it, smack it in the air Smack it, smack it in the air

lyrical genius

[jemthey17]

Got into Cornell.

What now UCLA?!?!

Congrats!

Sorry about the WL's, 90 and Atmosphere.

Regarding JS2 wait times, I got mine a couple of months after my interview. But I was in the second wave of admits and HLS had been pretty silent up to that point. Hopefully wait times will be shorter now.

[JamaicanSaiyan8]

Skype Interview with UVA. Accepted at the end of the interview. Haven't shed a tear in a while but this was darn close.

[jemthey17]

Skype Interview with UVA. Accepted at the end of the interview. Haven't shed a tear in a while but this was darn close.

Congrats!!!!

[LoganCouture]

Skype Interview with UVA. Accepted at the end of the interview. Haven't shed a tear in a while but this was darn close.

Congrats!!!!

+1

Also, condolences to those who were WL/dinged above. YP or no, law school admissions isn't always as cut and dry as mylsn.info makes it seem (URM cycles are particularly unpredictable) and I'm sure a lot of schools are doing weird things to protect their yield, meet whatever medians they're hoping to reach, etc.

[Skool]

Question for you all, for URMs who have interviewed at Columbia, what have been the results so far?

[Atmosphere]

Question for you all, for URMs who have interviewed at Columbia, what have been the results so far?

From what I've seen so far, a few of us have been admitted sans interview in what seems to be a greater frequency than Non-URMs

[jemthey17]

Question for you all, for URMs who have interviewed at Columbia, what have been the results so far?

From what I've seen so far, a few of us have been admitted sans interview in what seems to be a greater frequency than Non-URMs

Yeah, I did not interview and it seems most (all?) of us in this thread who were admitted did not. Which kind of surprises me.

[mindthegap]

Got the WL from Penn. This one bums me out a bit but only because Penn WL'd me as an undergraduate, too. Guess they really don't like me, hah. I'm going to ride it out because I can I'll regret it otherwise but I'm foreseeing a permanent break up between myself and the University of Pennsylvania at the end of this cycle.

On another note, I don't know how many of you are considering Michigan but I've had several emails from BLSA representatives since being admitted and they are definitely winning the recruitment game. In addition to being offered up to $350 as travel stipend for Preview Weekend, a member of the BLSA reached out (probably as part of the email-a-thon) and answered my questions about the school in such depth that I have very few - if any - doubts remaining about going there depending on how the rest of my cycle goes. The BLSA community sounds incredibly tight knit and supportive with lots of mentoring opportunities, too. I've actually never been involved with a cultural organization before but I definitely think that'll change in law school.

[AOT]

I think our struggle is that it is so hard to make complete rhyme or reason out of this stuff. Comparing oshkosh and Tr3, for instance, kinda raises some confusion:

They have pretty similar numbers and are both MA. Tr got UCLA, while osh was WL; osh got Berkeley straight admit while Tr had to go through FR.

Going further, I find my cycle to be pretty strange. In the lower T14+ I'm killing it with $$$ all around, but once I wandered into the DMB range, I got no love, but then was back on fire for Penn, NCC and S. Why would that gap be there? It would make more sense for a sort of cascading of scholarship money the further up the rankings you go, but not this WL/Twist in the wind thing.

And then there's the crime committed against LC at UVA, WTF was that?

I can *possibly* shed some light on this. Went to a UVA dinner recently, and one of the addcom people were saying that they haven't admitted a ton of people with great numbers and that they realise that those people are offended/confused by that. They said they're looking for people who show a commitment to buying into the UVA community hype. So if LC is from California, and hasn't shown she wants to stay in the area or be very involved in that aspect of things then that could be part of the reason?

[Tr3]

Congrats on the acceptances!
Condolences on the WLs =/


RE UCLA WL vs T14 Acceptance: I agree that URM cycles are unpredictable. I also think that T14 has more flexibility in who they admit because they admit some really strong numbers, so URMs with lower numbers can get absorbed in the statistics, whereas T20 might not have that flexibility since many of their high number admits are going to T14. I'm not sure if this is accurate, but it seems to make sense, especially with my cycle: T20, I've only heard back from UCLA and radio silence from WUSTL/Vandy (though DLS at Vandy at 11 weeks), and I've heard back from more T14s than I ever thought I would.

I think with URM cycles, there are more subjective reviews of files, which is why similar stat URMs have different outcomes.

[LoganCouture]

I think our struggle is that it is so hard to make complete rhyme or reason out of this stuff. Comparing oshkosh and Tr3, for instance, kinda raises some confusion:

They have pretty similar numbers and are both MA. Tr got UCLA, while osh was WL; osh got Berkeley straight admit while Tr had to go through FR.

Going further, I find my cycle to be pretty strange. In the lower T14+ I'm killing it with $$$ all around, but once I wandered into the DMB range, I got no love, but then was back on fire for Penn, NCC and S. Why would that gap be there? It would make more sense for a sort of cascading of scholarship money the further up the rankings you go, but not this WL/Twist in the wind thing.

And then there's the crime committed against LC at UVA, WTF was that?

I can *possibly* shed some light on this. Went to a UVA dinner recently, and one of the addcom people were saying that they haven't admitted a ton of people with great numbers and that they realise that those people are offended/confused by that. They said they're looking for people who show a commitment to buying into the UVA community hype. So if LC is from California, and hasn't shown she wants to stay in the area or be very involved in that aspect of things then that could be part of the reason?

I'm sorry for being too poor to ever leave CA and visit VA/DC/MD, gosh!! *dramatic sobbing*

In all seriousness, I figured it was something like that. Suck my ass, UVA.

[gold33]

DLS at NYU today!!!! Just logged into their Admitted Students page....REALLY hoping this isn't an error! *[potentially premature] happy dance*

[LoganCouture]

DLS at NYU today!!!! Just logged into their Admitted Students page....REALLY hoping this isn't an error! *[potentially premature] happy dance*

If you can log in, it's not a mistake.



Congrats!!