This geographical distribution of graduates is very similar to BU/ND. This doesn't help the idea that T17 is "considerably" better than BU/ND, etc. They seem to have the same mobility, same firm prospects. I concede that clerking is easier out of Vand/UT, but they also have less competition in their area. BU/BC gets trounced by Harvard/Yale/Cornell, etc. because clerking in the MA/NY region is ridiculously competitive.holydonkey wrote:Class of 2009 Employment at Graduation by GeographyDesert Fox wrote:25% of the US that has no large legal markets.holydonkey wrote:
+1 If Vandy is a regional school, that region includes about 25% of the United States.
Northeast 26.6%
West/Southwest 14.4%
South 43.0%
International 2.7%
Midwest 13.3%
It sucks that the 40% of Vandy's class that work in the Northeast and West have no access to large legal markets.
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Some of it is the top of the class that is nationally mobile but most of that is people slinking back home after failing to get big law.holydonkey wrote:Class of 2009 Employment at Graduation by GeographyDesert Fox wrote:25% of the US that has no large legal markets.holydonkey wrote:
+1 If Vandy is a regional school, that region includes about 25% of the United States.
Northeast 26.6%
West/Southwest 14.4%
South 43.0%
International 2.7%
Midwest 13.3%
It sucks that the 40% of Vandy's class that work in the Northeast and West have no access to large legal markets.
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Dude, I think the NU acceptance has gone to your head. You used to be cool.Desert Fox wrote:Some of it is the top of the class that is nationally mobile but most of that is people slinking back home after failing to get big law.holydonkey wrote:Class of 2009 Employment at Graduation by GeographyDesert Fox wrote:25% of the US that has no large legal markets.holydonkey wrote:
+1 If Vandy is a regional school, that region includes about 25% of the United States.
Northeast 26.6%
West/Southwest 14.4%
South 43.0%
International 2.7%
Midwest 13.3%
It sucks that the 40% of Vandy's class that work in the Northeast and West have no access to large legal markets.
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Don't worry, I won't be slinking back home after I fail to get big law because I'm already going to be home. But I'll still be working shit law.holydonkey wrote:Dude, I think the NU acceptance has gone to your head. You used to be cool.Desert Fox wrote:Some of it is the top of the class that is nationally mobile but most of that is people slinking back home after failing to get big law.holydonkey wrote:Class of 2009 Employment at Graduation by GeographyDesert Fox wrote:
25% of the US that has no large legal markets.
Northeast 26.6%
West/Southwest 14.4%
South 43.0%
International 2.7%
Midwest 13.3%
It sucks that the 40% of Vandy's class that work in the Northeast and West have no access to large legal markets.
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This is what BP has done to him/her.Desert Fox wrote:Don't worry, I won't be slinking back home after I fail to get big law because I'm already going to be home. But I'll still be working shit law.holydonkey wrote:Dude, I think the NU acceptance has gone to your head. You used to be cool.Desert Fox wrote:Some of it is the top of the class that is nationally mobile but most of that is people slinking back home after failing to get big law.holydonkey wrote: Class of 2009 Employment at Graduation by Geography
Northeast 26.6%
West/Southwest 14.4%
South 43.0%
International 2.7%
Midwest 13.3%
It sucks that the 40% of Vandy's class that work in the Northeast and West have no access to large legal markets.
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Me too. This is only a teensy bit of anecdotal evidence, but I worked at a very highly ranked DC firm this summer, and my class had an equivalent number of GW and G students (actually one more GW). My impression is that G and GW are roughly equal in employers' eyes.tamlyric wrote:I would vote for GW in this case. Fwiw.doopwooper wrote:How about GW with $105,000, vs Georgetown at sticker? Is this an obvious choice?
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Well I just found out I got into UVA, no scholarships. Now compared to GWU with the $105,500, what would you chose?
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UVA all the way.doopwooper wrote:Well I just found out I got into UVA, no scholarships. Now compared to GWU with the $105,500, what would you chose?
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If you want biglaw, UVA.doopwooper wrote:Well I just found out I got into UVA, no scholarships. Now compared to GWU with the $105,500, what would you chose?
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Yeah, something about moving to mid-Virginia though just really puts me off. I'm really happy I got in, it's just not some place I can see myself moving. It's 100 miles from DC, and I was concerned that DC would not be lively enough.. hah.
UVA is such a good school. I wouldn't want to be stupid and base my decision off of location alone, but I also want to make sure that it is still the more rational decision even if my debt will be more than twice as much.
UVA is such a good school. I wouldn't want to be stupid and base my decision off of location alone, but I also want to make sure that it is still the more rational decision even if my debt will be more than twice as much.
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I chose UVA. PM'd you details.doopwooper wrote:Well I just found out I got into UVA, no scholarships. Now compared to GWU with the $105,500, what would you chose?
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It really depends...I was thinking of whether to choose GULC sticker vs Boston $$ but it was an easy choice for Boston. But then again, I don't want to take out $200,000 in debt. Good luck in whatever you decide...
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Thank you very much for you message, I appreciate you taking the time to help me in my decision! I will respond more thoroughly to it when I get the time!vanwinkle wrote:I chose UVA. PM'd you details.doopwooper wrote:Well I just found out I got into UVA, no scholarships. Now compared to GWU with the $105,500, what would you chose?
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Is there a big difference, say between BU $$$ and Cornell/GULC sticker?
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Would you rather practice in Boston, NYC, or DC?Legalite wrote:Is there a big difference, say between BU $$$ and Cornell/GULC sticker?
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I don't mind any...but probably Boston since I don't like big cities 
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then go BU $$$ IMOLegalite wrote:I don't mind any...but probably Boston since I don't like big cities
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For me, I would take the bottom T-14 at sticker over T-20 with significant money with the exceptions of UT, UCLA, USC, and Vandy. Under no circumstances would I be willing to touch WUSTL if admitted to a T-14 and would only consider attending Minnesota if I wanted to practice regionally.
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For me, I would take the bottom T-14 at sticker over T-20 with significant money with the exceptions of UT, UCLA, USC, and Vandy. Under no circumstances would I be willing to touch WUSTL if admitted to a T-14 and would only consider attending Minnesota if I wanted to practice regionally.
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Erm. Aren't TX and UCLA pretty regional too? But I guess you like those regions?chadwick218 wrote:For me, I would take the bottom T-14 at sticker over T-20 with significant money with the exceptions of UT, UCLA, USC, and Vandy. Under no circumstances would I be willing to touch WUSTL if admitted to a T-14 and would only consider attending Minnesota if I wanted to practice regionally.
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Blindmelon wrote:Erm. Aren't TX and UCLA pretty regional too? But I guess you like those regions?chadwick218 wrote:For me, I would take the bottom T-14 at sticker over T-20 with significant money with the exceptions of UT, UCLA, USC, and Vandy. Under no circumstances would I be willing to touch WUSTL if admitted to a T-14 and would only consider attending Minnesota if I wanted to practice regionally.
Precisely! Also, the undergrads are much less bundled up for most of the year!
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Vandy or T25 with $$$?
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Which T-25? Also, if you have $$$ at a T-25, you are likely to pull some money out of Vandy.JOThompson wrote:Vandy or T25 with $$$?
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Iowa $$$ or half tuition at Minnesota. I was lucky to get those offers based on my middling LSAT, and I'm on the Vandy waitlist now, so I don't know if they'll give me any merit aid. I'm just trying to decide if I should play the WL game there 
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Vandy ITE.JOThompson wrote:Iowa $$$ or half tuition at Minnesota. I was lucky to get those offers based on my middling LSAT, and I'm on the Vandy waitlist now, so I don't know if they'll give me any merit aid. I'm just trying to decide if I should play the WL game there